<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">Hi everybody, thank you for the links!</div><div class=""><br class=""></div>“The Cleaners” was broadcast on French TV a few weeks ago. A great film indeed, though the setting is a bit disturbing, since most of the footage is a reconstitution, as well as the ‘cases’ that we follow from one side of the Web (agencies, social networks) to the other (the cleaners).<div class=""><div class=""><div class="">It does tackle interesting issues, though, such as the commitment of these workers who strive to keep the Web free of trash. And the nightmarish balance between moderation and censorship.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Before this one, about a year ago, another documentary, which was shot in a real “moderation factory”, was published on Vimeo : <a href="https://vimeo.com/239108604" class="">The Moderators</a>. It’s shorter (which is great if you want to show it to your students), doesn’t address all aspects of the problem, but is somehow more “telling”, especially in regards to the work conditions (it notably shows a few training sessions). A nice addition to explore what some of the maintenance of the Web takes…</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Jérôme</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Le 23 sept. 2018 à 15:08, <<a href="mailto:p.y.georgiadou@utwente.nl" class="">p.y.georgiadou@utwente.nl</a>> <<a href="mailto:p.y.georgiadou@utwente.nl" class="">p.y.georgiadou@utwente.nl</a>> a écrit :</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Dear all<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">This is an extraordinary documentary on<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">The Cleaners</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>of internet content :<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://www.cnet.com/news/the-cleaners-sundance-documentary-review-dirt-on-social-media/" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://www.cnet.com/news/the-cleaners-sundance-documentary-review-dirt-on-social-media/</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>, I assume of great interest to all maintainers.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">“</span><span lang="EN-US" class="">The "cleaners" of the title are the internet's content moderators: the men and women employed to analyse your videos, photos and social media posts and decide if they're offensive or A-OK. In the past few years, the rise of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="link"><a href="https://www.cnet.com/news/facebook-google-twitter-2018-election-prevent-fake-news-senate/" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">fake news</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US" class="">, social media bubbles and increasingly polarised discourse around the world have led to<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="link"><a href="https://www.cnet.com/news/the-honeymoon-is-over-in-silicon-valley-facebook-google-twitter/" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">hard questions for Facebook, Twitter and Google</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US" class="">. So you might assume these internet giants employ armies of highly trained experts to act as guardians of our delicate sensibilities.”<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">YG</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><b class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:themaintainers-bounces@lists.stevens.edu" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">themaintainers-bounces@lists.stevens.edu</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="mailto:themaintainers-bounces@lists.stevens.edu" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">themaintainers-bounces@lists.stevens.edu</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Lee Vinsel<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Sunday, September 23, 2018 1:45 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Camille E. Acey <<a href="mailto:connect@camilleacey.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">connect@camilleacey.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Themaintainers <<a href="mailto:themaintainers@lists.stevens.edu" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">themaintainers@lists.stevens.edu</a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Themaintainers] $1m to pay open source maintainers on Tidelift<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">Thanks for sending this out, Camille!<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">Andy, I, and others have been talking a lot about issues related to this. We believe that humans have a deep need for recognition, but ultimately good feelings aren't enough, and real recognition must also involve actually valuing the work in the sense of $$$$. <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">As David Edgerton and others have pointed out, Maintainers are sometimes quite well paid, and if we can look back into the quickly retreating past when there were strong unions in the USA, Maintainers were frequently union leaders. <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">But we are also aware and interested in the many cases where Maintainers aren't well rewarded today. Andy and I are really inspired by Stephanie Hoopes and<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://www.unitedwayalice.org/" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">her United Way project called ALICE, which stands for Asset Limited Income Constrained Employed and focuses on the working poor</a>. In some work we did with Stephanie, we saw that there was a large overlap between ALICE households and what we might call Maintainer occupations. <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">A final thought: we should also pay attention to the large amount of human effort, like open source maintainer work, that falls largely outside of traditional markets,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://www.plutobooks.com/blog/social-reproduction-theory-ferguson/" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">including the kind of domestic labor examined in the literature on social reproduction</a>. This includes a lot of care work obviously. And on that front, I've been inspired not only by Nancy Fraser's recent writings on care but also by<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Forced-Care-Coercion-Caregiving-America/dp/0674064151" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">Evelyn Nakano Glenn's book, Forced to Care: Coercion and Caregiving in America</a>, which does a great job especially with the gendered and racialized nature of the topic. <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">Thanks again for the post and for continuing to take interest in maintenance/Maintainers. <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">Lee<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 8:50 PM Camille E. Acey <<a href="mailto:connect@camilleacey.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">connect@camilleacey.com</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-width: 1pt; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0in;" class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><a href="https://blog.tidelift.com/1m-to-pay-open-source-maintainers-on-tidelift" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://blog.tidelift.com/1m-to-pay-open-source-maintainers-on-tidelift</a><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">"<span style="color: rgb(75, 81, 104); letter-spacing: 0.4pt; background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class="">How can we ensure that the open source software we rely on continues to get even more awesome and more dependable?</span></span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><p style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(75, 81, 104); letter-spacing: 0.4pt;" class="">At Tidelift, we believe the solution is hiding in plain sight: pay the maintainers."<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div id="m_-5425516538755294677composer_signature" class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">Camille E. 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