[Themaintainers] Maintainers at BHC, and a reading suggestion

Tue Sep 13 07:43:19 EDT 2016

I'd be happy to participate as well.

I'm in NYC so if there is a sufficient number of folks there, we could also
try to meet physically?

On Sep 13, 2016 7:38 AM, "Bernardo Batiz-Lazo" <b.batiz-lazo at bangor.ac.uk>
wrote:

> Count me in as well
> Thanks
> Bernardo
>
>
> On 13 Sep 2016, at 01:07, Sarah Fox <perhaxis at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I'd also be interested in participating in a reading group!
>
> On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 4:47 PM, Ellen Foster <el.fostek at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I would also love to take part!
>>
>> Shared docs and possibly Google Hang-outs? Or maybe we all share reading
>> responses with one another? But doing a long-distance chat would be nice
>> for a reading group.
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 7:39 PM, brandon benevento <jbbenevento at gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Me too.  How to get a long distance reading group together isn't really
>>> my area, but I'm definitely in.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 11:39 PM, Dick, Stephanie <
>>> sadick at fas.harvard.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Nathan, and everyone. I would also love to be a part of this
>>>> reading group.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Stephanie A. Dick
>>>> Junior Fellow
>>>> Harvard Society of Fellows
>>>> sadick at fas.harvard.edu
>>>> http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~sadick/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > On Sep 11, 2016, at 9:52 PM, Philip Scranton <
>>>> scranton at scarletmail.rutgers.edu> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Sent from my iPad
>>>> >
>>>> > On Sep 11, 2016, at 8:36 PM, "Greene, Ann Norton" <
>>>> angreene at sas.upenn.edu> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> I’d be interested in a reading group!
>>>> >> Ann
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> On Sep 11, 2016, at 3:00 PM, Ensmenger, Nathan <
>>>> nensmeng at indiana.edu> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> I will add my voice to the chorus of folks interested in a
>>>> Maintainers panel at the BHC.  By my count Bernardo, Ellan, and Andrew have
>>>> all expressed interest, and we can take the conversation off-list.   If
>>>> anyone else would like to chime in, just send me an email.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On a completely different point: early on in the history of this
>>>> mailing list it was suggested that we do a virtual reading group.  I have
>>>> been thinking recently about how communities of maintainers communicate
>>>> tacit knowledge, and was reminded of what I would argue is one of the
>>>> greatest history of technology accounts of maintenance work ever written,
>>>> namely\
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Orr, Julian. Talking About Machines: an Ethnography of a Modern
>>>> Job, ILR Press Ithaca, NY, 1996.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> If you have not read this book, which is about Xerox repair
>>>> technicians, you should so as soon as possible!   If you are too busy to
>>>> read the whole book, read chapter 8  (“war stories of the service
>>>> triangle”), which describes the ways in which these technicians use stories
>>>> (vignettes, as Orr describes them) to teach each other the complicated
>>>> knowledge required to diagnose and repair complex machinery.  These stories
>>>> were typically shared over breakfast at informal gatherings.  When the
>>>> company tried to formalize this tacit knowledge into a database driven
>>>> expert system, the whole system broke down (as did the machines…)
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Andy and Lee (and others) have done a fabulous job getting the word
>>>> out about *why* we should study maintenance. Orr’s book is an excellent
>>>> example of *how* to do it.  If we do decide to do a #maintainers reading
>>>> group, it might be a good place to start.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> -Nathan
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> ---
>>>> >>> Nathan Ensmenger
>>>> >>> Associate Professor of Informatics
>>>> >>> School of Informatics and Computing
>>>> >>> Indiana University, Bloomington
>>>> >>> homes.soic.indiana.edu/nensmeng/
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>>>> >> Associate Director for Undergraduate Studies & Assistant Professor
>>>> >> Dept of History and Sociology of Science
>>>> >> University of Pennsylvania
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Author, _Horses at Work: Harnessing Power in Industrial America_
>>>> (Harvard, 2008)
>>>> >>
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