[Themaintainers] Maintainers email list migration

Wed Mar 13 12:40:07 EDT 2019

And since we are on the topic of Google, did anyone else read this
piece in the times about the laying the underwater infrastructure of
the Internet?

How the Internet Travels Across Oceans
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/03/10/technology/internet-cables-oceans.html

Lots of great details about the inner workings of laying transoceanic
cable, including the amount of food required to feed the people laying
the cable. I do feel the author missed a chance to talk about the
trouble with having content providers owning the pipes, but otherwise,
a worthwhile read.

Mike

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On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 7:18 AM <stephaniebeth at protonmail.com> wrote:
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> Echoing what has been said by Camille and others, I agree that it seems incongruous that this group would voluntarily build itself an infrastructure of support that relies on Google. There are certainly tradeoffs of convenience but it may be worth exploring the other options. I understand whatever the organizers decide. Thank you for your consideration, transparency and work!
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> On Mar 13, 2019, 8:23 AM, Bernardo Batiz-Lazo < b.batiz-lazo at bangor.ac.uk> wrote:
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> As long as there is one UK academic address owner/responsible. I have worked with them for quite a while. No problem.
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> From: themaintainers-bounces at lists.stevens.edu <themaintainers-bounces at lists.stevens.edu> On Behalf Of Lee Vinsel
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> To: Andrew Russell <arussell at arussell.org>
> Cc: Themaintainers <themaintainers at lists.stevens.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Themaintainers] Maintainers email list migration
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> Camille shared a few further thoughts, and I wanted to pass them onto the list. This is in response to a question where I asked if her hesitation had to do with Google. Camille wrote, "Yes, my concerns about surveillance capitalism rise with every passing day. But in the spirit of better understanding this change, let me ask you: what prompted this move? What makes you characterize it as 'maturation'?"
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> And here is my response to her: Totally get that. We worry about Google too. Couple things regarding "maturation": The first is that our current set up is not stable, secure, or sustainable. Neither Andy nor I work at Stevens anymore. Stevens could shut down the list at any moment or do God knows what with our data, including the members list. The second bit just has to do with centralizing and rationalizing our communications and data. It's been VERY haphazard so far. For instance, at one point, Andy and I didn't even have the members list backed up!! Educopia is helping us get our act together along these lines.
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> Just wanted to have all such thoughts out there in the open - transparency and . . . reasonableness is a real goal for us. If anyone else has thoughts about where the list should go, please don't hesitate to share them either with the list or with Andy and me individually. Andy and I and the team we are working with certainly aren't locked into any specific option, and we are happy to receive feedback - including about the ethics of platform choices!
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> On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 1:35 PM Andrew Russell <arussell at arussell.org> wrote:
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> Please say more!  We’ve got mixed feelings about GSuite, but we identified it as a solution since we already use it for our web/email hosting.  And it’s unwise to depend on the generosity (or benign neglect!) of a place where Lee and I no longer work.  (I happen to like mailman installations, but my current employer doesn’t support it.)
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> On Mar 12, 2019, at 1:29 PM, Camille E. Acey <connect at camilleacey.com> wrote:
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> Darn. I'm sad to see you go this direction.
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> On March 12, 2019 1:09:10 PM EDT, Andrew Russell <arussell at arussell.org> wrote:
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> Hey Everyone,
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> The Maintainers is maturing a notch - we’re now in a position to migrate The Maintainers listserv off of our former employer's server, and into The Maintainer's own GSuite hosted at themaintainers.org.
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> As a heads up, please mark your calendar: Next Monday, March 18th...
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> We'll migrate the email addresses on this listserv to the new list at themaintainers at themaintainers.org. You'll receive a welcome message once your email is added to the new system.
> Starting next Monday, email this list at its new home themaintainers at themaintainers.org.
> Once the migration is complete, we’ll request that the current (aka original) maintainers list be retired.
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> Suggestions and/or questions are welcomed - please send them our way.
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