[Themaintainers] Maintainers email list migration

Wed Mar 13 13:02:42 EDT 2019

I'll add a pitch for Nicole Starosielski's book on the topic of underseas
internet cables!
https://www.amazon.com/Undersea-Network-Nicole-Starosielski/dp/1536618454

On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 9:55 AM Roy, Michael D. <mdroy at middlebury.edu>
wrote:

> And since we are on the topic of Google, did anyone else read this
> piece in the times about the laying the underwater infrastructure of
> the Internet?
>
> How the Internet Travels Across Oceans
>
> https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/03/10/technology/internet-cables-oceans.html
>
> Lots of great details about the inner workings of laying transoceanic
> cable, including the amount of food required to feed the people laying
> the cable. I do feel the author missed a chance to talk about the
> trouble with having content providers owning the pipes, but otherwise,
> a worthwhile read.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
>
> Michael Roy
> Dean of the Library
> Middlebury College
>
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> Michael Roy
> Dean of the Library
> Middlebury College
>
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>
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>
> On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 7:18 AM <stephaniebeth at protonmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Echoing what has been said by Camille and others, I agree that it seems
> incongruous that this group would voluntarily build itself an
> infrastructure of support that relies on Google. There are certainly
> tradeoffs of convenience but it may be worth exploring the other options. I
> understand whatever the organizers decide. Thank you for your
> consideration, transparency and work!
> >
> >
> > Sent from ProtonMail mobile
> >
> >
> >
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > On Mar 13, 2019, 8:23 AM, Bernardo Batiz-Lazo <
> b.batiz-lazo at bangor.ac.uk> wrote:
> >
> >
> > We can always use
> >
> >
> >
> > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/
> >
> >
> >
> > As long as there is one UK academic address owner/responsible. I have
> worked with them for quite a while. No problem.
> >
> > My two-soon-to-be-Brexited-pence
> >
> > Bernardo
> >
> > Bangor Uni (Wales)
> >
> > From: themaintainers-bounces at lists.stevens.edu <
> themaintainers-bounces at lists.stevens.edu> On Behalf Of Lee Vinsel
> > Sent: 12 March 2019 20:45
> > To: Andrew Russell <arussell at arussell.org>
> > Cc: Themaintainers <themaintainers at lists.stevens.edu>
> > Subject: Re: [Themaintainers] Maintainers email list migration
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi, all.
> >
> >
> >
> > Camille shared a few further thoughts, and I wanted to pass them onto
> the list. This is in response to a question where I asked if her hesitation
> had to do with Google. Camille wrote, "Yes, my concerns about surveillance
> capitalism rise with every passing day. But in the spirit of better
> understanding this change, let me ask you: what prompted this move? What
> makes you characterize it as 'maturation'?"
> >
> >
> >
> > And here is my response to her: Totally get that. We worry about Google
> too. Couple things regarding "maturation": The first is that our current
> set up is not stable, secure, or sustainable. Neither Andy nor I work at
> Stevens anymore. Stevens could shut down the list at any moment or do God
> knows what with our data, including the members list. The second bit just
> has to do with centralizing and rationalizing our communications and data.
> It's been VERY haphazard so far. For instance, at one point, Andy and I
> didn't even have the members list backed up!! Educopia is helping us get
> our act together along these lines.
> >
> >
> >
> > Just wanted to have all such thoughts out there in the open -
> transparency and . . . reasonableness is a real goal for us. If anyone else
> has thoughts about where the list should go, please don't hesitate to share
> them either with the list or with Andy and me individually. Andy and I and
> the team we are working with certainly aren't locked into any specific
> option, and we are happy to receive feedback - including about the ethics
> of platform choices!
> >
> >
> >
> > Lee
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 1:35 PM Andrew Russell <arussell at arussell.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > Please say more!  We’ve got mixed feelings about GSuite, but we
> identified it as a solution since we already use it for our web/email
> hosting.  And it’s unwise to depend on the generosity (or benign neglect!)
> of a place where Lee and I no longer work.  (I happen to like mailman
> installations, but my current employer doesn’t support it.)
> >
> >
> >
> > Andy
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mar 12, 2019, at 1:29 PM, Camille E. Acey <connect at camilleacey.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Darn. I'm sad to see you go this direction.
> >
> > On March 12, 2019 1:09:10 PM EDT, Andrew Russell <arussell at arussell.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hey Everyone,
> >
> > The Maintainers is maturing a notch - we’re now in a position to migrate
> The Maintainers listserv off of our former employer's server, and into The
> Maintainer's own GSuite hosted at themaintainers.org.
> >
> > As a heads up, please mark your calendar: Next Monday, March 18th...
> >
> > We'll migrate the email addresses on this listserv to the new list at
> themaintainers at themaintainers.org. You'll receive a welcome message once
> your email is added to the new system.
> > Starting next Monday, email this list at its new home
> themaintainers at themaintainers.org.
> > Once the migration is complete, we’ll request that the current (aka
> original) maintainers list be retired.
> >
> > Suggestions and/or questions are welcomed - please send them our way.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thank you!
> >
> >
> >
> > Andy & Lee
> >
> >
> > --
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> >
> >
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