[Themaintainers] Maintainers email list migration

Thu Mar 14 10:15:49 EDT 2019

Hi,
I would like to be removed from the mailing list please.
Best,
Nadia

Le jeu. 14 mars 2019 à 14:20, Joshua Braun <jabraun at journ.umass.edu> a
écrit :

> Hi All,
>
> Long-time listener, sporadic caller here. As someone who studies digital
> content circulation, I just wanted to endorse/add to a few points made on
> the list thus far:
>
> (1) I second Mike Roy's recommendation of the Gizmodo series—the last
> piece in that series, in particular, is excellent in highlighting the fact
> that for a huge variety of branded "alternatives," it's still going to be
> Google or (more typically) Amazon Web Services under the hood that's
> providing the delivery infrastructure. This makes wholesale boycotts of the
> frightful five particularly difficult. That said, that doesn't necessarily
> mean that narrower boycotts—e.g., not using GSuite—have no meaning. It's
> just worth thinking of them in context.
>
> (2) I'd personally support running your own mailing list or using a
> progressive alternative like Riseup that explicitly eschews reliance on the
> big five. My understanding, though, is that mailing list software is often
> janky when installed on shared hosting services. The reason I've heard is
> that when your domain is hosted on the same box as umpteen other domains,
> if any one of those other sites uses the same infrastructure to send
> problematic email messages, it's not uncommon for mail administrators on
> the receiving end to bluntly blacklist all messages coming from the shared
> hosting box. Thus, one bad actor using your shared hosting can create a
> situation where outbound messages from all the domains on the same hosting
> box get blocked. Dedicated hosting is more expensive, but avoids this
> problem.
>
> (3) I'd also just highlight the fact that, given how difficult it is to
> actually opt out of some of these services, we're all faced with
> participating in and critiquing them simultaneously. The Maintainers list
> seems like a good place (and topic about which) to have a discussion about
> how to do that meaningfully. Being hosted by Google doesn't necessarily
> preclude having powerful discussions about how Google treats its employees
> or the negative externalities it creates. Whether it makes those
> conversations less meaningful is an important question, but I don't know
> that the answer is cut-and-dried.
>
> My 2¢!
>
> Cheers,
> Josh
>
>
> On 3/13/19 11:15 PM, Roy, Michael D. wrote:
>
> On a lovely hike south of Monterey today, free of cell service, my friend
> and colleague recommended to me the recently published five part piece on
> Gizmodo by Kashmir Hill on her six week experiment with avoiding the Big
> Five https://gizmodo.com/c/goodbye-big-five
>
> This seems relevant to the question of whether or not to use google groups
> for this particular group.
>
> The dismal take-away for me was that these small choices we might make in
> the end are probably pointless, and that the bigger question of how our
> infrastructure is regulated is something that needs to be sorted not by our
> individual choices but by whoever it is we end up sending to represent us
> in our various governments.
>
> That said, if we want to ditch the Googleverse, I can highly recommend
> Reclaim Hosting (https://reclaimhosting.com/ ) which provides a robust
> and ever growing suite of open source programs that might prove to be a
> winning solution. Of course, going that route requires that we sign up to
> maintain all of this, but as others have pointed out, perhaps that is
> consistent with the general gestalt of this group.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Michael Roy
> Dean of the Library
> Middlebury College
>
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>
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>
>
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 10:35 AM Andrew Russell <arussell at arussell.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Please say more!  We’ve got mixed feelings about GSuite, but we
>> identified it as a solution since we already use it for our web/email
>> hosting.  And it’s unwise to depend on the generosity (or benign neglect!)
>> of a place where Lee and I no longer work.  (I happen to like mailman
>> installations, but my current employer doesn’t support it.)
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mar 12, 2019, at 1:29 PM, Camille E. Acey <connect at camilleacey.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Darn. I'm sad to see you go this direction. 😫
>>
>> On March 12, 2019 1:09:10 PM EDT, Andrew Russell <arussell at arussell.org>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey Everyone,
>>>
>>> The Maintainers is maturing a notch - we’re now in a position to migrate
>>> The Maintainers listserv off of our former employer's server, and into The
>>> Maintainer's own GSuite hosted at themaintainers.org.
>>>
>>> As a heads up, please mark your calendar: Next Monday, March 18th...
>>>
>>>    - We'll migrate the email addresses on this listserv to the new list
>>>    at themaintainers at themaintainers.org. You'll receive a welcome
>>>    message once your email is added to the new system.
>>>    - Starting next Monday, email this list at its new home
>>>    themaintainers at themaintainers.org.
>>>    - Once the migration is complete, we’ll request that the current
>>>    (aka original) maintainers list be retired.
>>>
>>> Suggestions and/or questions are welcomed - please send them our way.
>>>
>>> Thank you!
>>>
>>> Andy & Lee
>>>
>>
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>>
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