[Themaintainers] Themaintainers Digest, Vol 62, Issue 20
Richard Wheeler
richarduwheeler at gmail.com
Mon Apr 26 13:14:53 EDT 2021
Erin, with regard to your question this may be a little out of left field
but your problem reminds me a little of a piece by the artist Tom Sachs
that I participated in at the Yerba Buena Center For The Arts in San
Francisco (https://ybca.org/event/tom-sachs-space-program-europa/). Part of
the experience was a pop-up cafe in which one could order coffee and snacks
(or have a shot of tequila with the artist—if you were lucky enough to
crash a private Facebook employee tour and ask MFA-type questions), but in
which one could also perform a series of tasks that supported Sachs' studio
in order to earn a private 1:1 tour with the artist of the replica lunar
lander in the main gallery. These tasks were things like sifting through
five pounds of screws and bolts and nuts and washers that were used in
prototypes and were now just junk—but which could be reused if they were
properly sorted out into bins of the same type and size. Not an activity
for everyone—but my friend and I lapped it up. And I wonder if there isn't
a similar activity or activities in your case. Some sort of community
triage event or events. Not a turn-key solution for you, but maybe
something productive in here.
Richard Wheeler
richarduwheeler at gmail.com
347.661.8476
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> From: Erin Richardson <erin at frankandglory.com>
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> The Cost of Collecting (1989)! Yes, I actually own a hard copy of that - it
> inspired my entire dissertation (2018)! You're the first person to ever
> reference it in a conversation. That just made my day!
>
>
> Erin Richardson, PhD
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> On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 9:17 AM Heidi Overhill <overhill at rogers.com>
> wrote:
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> > Your hoarding associates might benefit from reading Barry Lord's *The
> > Cost of Collecting* (1989), based on a review of British museums, and
> > revealing the sometimes-unexpected effects of keeping everything.
> >
> > Best wishes,
> > Heidi
> >
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> > 1. Re: Big question - but looking for practical solution
> > (Jan Dittrich)
> > 2. Tim Hunkin's enthusiasm for mending (Melle Zijlstra)
> > 3. Re: Big question - but looking for practical solution
> > (Varun Adibhatla (ARGO))
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2021 22:04:52 +0200
> > From: Jan Dittrich <dittrich.c.jan at gmail.com>
> > To: themaintainers at lists.stevens.edu
> > Subject: Re: [Themaintainers] Big question - but looking for practical
> > solution
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> > Hi Erin,
> >
> > So just to understand you correctly:
> >
> > The people you work with store a lot of broken equipment that is too old
> > to be used efficiently anyway.
> >
> > Does it, aside of probably looking messy have negative effects? Like,
> > that the space that is used is needed for something else? (Asking, since
> > some people might like it to look like the IT crowd basement. Having
> > hung out in some hack spaces, it sometimes seems to be an aesthetic
> > choice, I guess :) )
> >
> > You also write:
> >
> > > They do "ad-hoc" maintenance [?]
> > > [?] resource allocation for preventative maintenance and repair
> >
> > This implies to me that, while the tech runs it is not necessarily taken
> > care of, only if it breaks ? is that correct or did I read to much into
> it?
> >
> > Kind Regards,
> > ?Jan
> >
> > Am 16.04.2021 um 17:47 schrieb Erin Richardson:
> > > Hello, maintainers!
> > >
> > > I normally work in the museum space where I work with maintenance and
> > > preservation?of cultural objects and associated metadata and systems.
> > >
> > > This time I have a project that involves?equipment in use (or supposed
> > > to be in use) and I'm looking for a maintenance plan framework for a
> > > very small nonprofit organization without any kind of maintenance plan
> > > for their?equipment. They do "ad-hoc" maintenance and are very loathe
> > > to officially?retire anything because someone might be able to fix it
> > > some day.
> > >
> > > However, their boneyard is impinging on their ability to fulfill their
> > > public mission - a whole lot of square footage is consumed with broken
> > > equipment, much of which has been in purgatory so long that it
> > > wouldn't be redeployed even if repaired?because it has been superceded
> > > by something better.
> > >
> > > So, I'd like to direct them to some philosophy?about maintenance?that
> > > focuses on planning and resource allocation for
> > > preventative?maintenance and repair, but also something that will help
> > > them know when?it is ok to enter equipment into hospice and let it
> > > die. These are science people, but I'd prefer something
> > > not-too-technical. They're a fun and very smart bunch with a basement
> > > full of what can only be described as recyclables at this point.? Help
> > > please?
> > >
> > > Thank you!
> > > Erin
> > >
> > >
> > > ?Erin Richardson, PhD
> > > /?Founder and Principal/
> > > ? C ? 518.577.0186 | FrankAndGlory.com <http://frankandglory.com/>
> > > (formerly Erin Richardson Consulting)
> > > ? ?????
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> > Message: 2
> > Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2021 19:14:17 +0100
> > From: Melle Zijlstra <info at mellezijlstra.com>
> > To: themaintainers at lists.stevens.edu
> > Subject: [Themaintainers] Tim Hunkin's enthusiasm for mending
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> > Hi all,
> >
> > After I watched the latest episode of the brilliantly funny Tim Hunkin
> > <https://timhunkin.com/>'s new series The Secret Life of Components
> > <
> >
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JAgXz6xO0s&list=PLtaR0lZhSyANYB0Xxb9OSp47pHuQmj3Ol&index=1
> >,
> >
> > YouTube suggested a 2019 video
> > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUZpZ2-5Ow0> of Hunkin giving a rather
> > enthusiastic talk about the joys of mending, and design for maintenance.
> > I enjoyed it very much and I'm sure some of you will too! (He has
> > another YT channel <https://www.youtube.com/user/thinkins/videos> which
> > is definitely worth checking out as well if you like his work.)
> >
> > All the best,
> > Melle
> >
> > --
> >
> > melle zijlstra university of bath
> > phd researcher | department of computer science
> > teaching fellow | department of mechanical
> > engineering
> >
> > bath uk
> > dublin ireland
> >
> > (uk) +447495905169
> > (m.zijlstra@)bath.ac.uk <http://bath.ac.uk>
> > mellezijlstra.com <http://mellezijlstra.com>
> > linkedin <
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> > Message: 3
> > Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2021 20:26:25 -0400
> > From: "Varun Adibhatla (ARGO)" <varun at argolabs.org>
> > To: erin at frankandglory.com
> > Cc: themaintainers <themaintainers at lists.stevens.edu>
> > Subject: Re: [Themaintainers] Big question - but looking for practical
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> > Erin,
> >
> > My suggestion is to replace the "ad-hoc" culture of maintenance with a
> > regular cadence of upkeep but also MAKING IT FUN!!!
> > Maybe every Friday is Maintenance Day! where the scientists can take a
> > break from their routines and socialize around maintaining the machines
> > that serve them.
> > Maybe they could extend the theme so that every Friday, they invite a
> > Maintainer to teach them how to repair and maintain all sorts of stuff?
> > (machines, body, mind)
> > In the absence of local maintenance talent, maybe they can binge on some
> > youtube videos that show how to repair and maintain all sorts of
> > stuff? (machines, body, mind)
> >
> > I'd be happy to make a maintenance oriented youtube playlist for your
> > mysterious science people working with what appears to be interesting
> > equipment :)
> >
> > Hope this helps,
> > Varun
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 17, 2021 at 2:43 PM Erin Richardson <erin at frankandglory.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hello, maintainers!
> > >
> > > I normally work in the museum space where I work with maintenance and
> > > preservation of cultural objects and associated metadata and systems.
> > >
> > > This time I have a project that involves equipment in use (or supposed
> to
> > > be in use) and I'm looking for a maintenance plan framework for a very
> > > small nonprofit organization without any kind of maintenance plan for
> > > their equipment. They do "ad-hoc" maintenance and are very loathe to
> > > officially retire anything because someone might be able to fix it some
> > > day.
> > >
> > > However, their boneyard is impinging on their ability to fulfill their
> > > public mission - a whole lot of square footage is consumed with broken
> > > equipment, much of which has been in purgatory so long that it wouldn't
> > be
> > > redeployed even if repaired because it has been superceded by something
> > > better.
> > >
> > > So, I'd like to direct them to some philosophy about maintenance that
> > > focuses on planning and resource allocation for preventative
> maintenance
> > > and repair, but also something that will help them know when it is ok
> to
> > > enter equipment into hospice and let it die. These are science people,
> > but
> > > I'd prefer something not-too-technical. They're a fun and very smart
> > bunch
> > > with a basement full of what can only be described as recyclables at
> this
> > > point. Help please?
> > >
> > > Thank you!
> > > Erin
> > >
> > >
> > > Erin Richardson, PhD
> > > * Founder and Principal*
> > > C ? 518.577.0186 | FrankAndGlory.com <http://frankandglory.com/>
> > > (formerly Erin Richardson Consulting)
> > > ?????
> > > Follow us on Linked In <https://www.linkedin.com/company/frank-glory/
> >
> > > Download my Contact Card
> > >
> > > <
> >
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> > Thank You,
> > Varun Adibhatla
> > Applied Research in Government Operations - argolabs.org
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> From: Erin Richardson <erin at frankandglory.com>
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> Subject: Re: [Themaintainers] Big question - but looking for practical
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> Thank you to everyone for these fantastic suggestions!
>
> This organization (it's a public observatory structured as a membership
> organization) does a lot of public programs and they're really
> overwhelmed with their tech boneyard. Maintenance is really the absolute
> last priority for these very enthusiastic people Their basement is full of
> telescopes, mounts, lenses, CPUs, tools, spare parts, a retired and
> dismantled photography darkroom, and other parts and its
> completely disorganized to the point where if they encountered a functional
> problem with one of their telescopes-in-use, they couldn't even find a
> replacement in their basement.
>
> Members bring in personal equipment that just never goes home, or they
> leave it there thinking that the organization will eventually use it for
> something. They are NOT a museum - NYS has one of the only "regulatory
> environments" for museums in the country and they really should not get
> into the business of preserving this equipment - it should be transferred
> to a more appropriate repository for use or preservation. Basically, I
> don't think they understand that they're giving up a huge amount of usable
> square footage to storage of equipment that will never have a purpose other
> than occupying the space vacuum. I'm recommending that they:
> 1) Create and implement an equipment management and maintenance plan
> (including an asset, out of service, and "scrap" tagging system)
> 2) Create and implement a "member personal property" agreement that allows
> members to store items at the property only if the organization agrees -the
> agreement must be renewed annually to ensure that the member is in good
> standing and still wishes to store their stuff.
>
> I love Varun's idea of Maintenance Days on a regular schedule - I can see
> the organization really getting behind that.
>
> And, I looked up the quote referenced by Joe its ?You cannot overestimate
> the unimportance of practically everything.? ? John Maxwell.
>
> Thanks everyone for your great ideas!
>
> Erin
>
> Erin Richardson, PhD
> * Founder and Principal*
> C ? 518.577.0186 | FrankAndGlory.com <http://frankandglory.com/>
> (formerly Erin Richardson Consulting)
> ?????
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> >
>
> ?
>
> On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 8:27 PM Varun Adibhatla (ARGO) <varun at argolabs.org
> >
> wrote:
>
> > Erin,
> >
> > My suggestion is to replace the "ad-hoc" culture of maintenance with a
> > regular cadence of upkeep but also MAKING IT FUN!!!
> > Maybe every Friday is Maintenance Day! where the scientists can take a
> > break from their routines and socialize around maintaining the machines
> > that serve them.
> > Maybe they could extend the theme so that every Friday, they invite a
> > Maintainer to teach them how to repair and maintain all sorts of stuff?
> > (machines, body, mind)
> > In the absence of local maintenance talent, maybe they can binge on some
> > youtube videos that show how to repair and maintain all sorts of
> > stuff? (machines, body, mind)
> >
> > I'd be happy to make a maintenance oriented youtube playlist for your
> > mysterious science people working with what appears to be interesting
> > equipment :)
> >
> > Hope this helps,
> > Varun
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 17, 2021 at 2:43 PM Erin Richardson <erin at frankandglory.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hello, maintainers!
> >>
> >> I normally work in the museum space where I work with maintenance and
> >> preservation of cultural objects and associated metadata and systems.
> >>
> >> This time I have a project that involves equipment in use (or supposed
> to
> >> be in use) and I'm looking for a maintenance plan framework for a very
> >> small nonprofit organization without any kind of maintenance plan for
> >> their equipment. They do "ad-hoc" maintenance and are very loathe to
> >> officially retire anything because someone might be able to fix it some
> >> day.
> >>
> >> However, their boneyard is impinging on their ability to fulfill their
> >> public mission - a whole lot of square footage is consumed with broken
> >> equipment, much of which has been in purgatory so long that it wouldn't
> be
> >> redeployed even if repaired because it has been superceded by something
> >> better.
> >>
> >> So, I'd like to direct them to some philosophy about maintenance that
> >> focuses on planning and resource allocation for preventative maintenance
> >> and repair, but also something that will help them know when it is ok to
> >> enter equipment into hospice and let it die. These are science people,
> but
> >> I'd prefer something not-too-technical. They're a fun and very smart
> bunch
> >> with a basement full of what can only be described as recyclables at
> this
> >> point. Help please?
> >>
> >> Thank you!
> >> Erin
> >>
> >>
> >> Erin Richardson, PhD
> >> * Founder and Principal*
> >> C ? 518.577.0186 | FrankAndGlory.com <http://frankandglory.com/>
> >> (formerly Erin Richardson Consulting)
> >> ?????
> >> Follow us on Linked In <https://www.linkedin.com/company/frank-glory/
> >
> >> Download my Contact Card
> >>
> >> <
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/dbj1inhmg27822n/ErinRichardson-FrankandGlory-vcard.vcf?dl=0
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> >
> > --
> > Thank You,
> > Varun Adibhatla
> > Applied Research in Government Operations - argolabs.org
> > 347-815-3383
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